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2 strokes and 4 stroke the truth

By gottalovahonda, 27 June, 2007
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the truth about 2 and 4 stroke

the 2 stroke lighter and quicker than a 4 stroke of the same displacement the rush from riding a smoker is incedible, there is less engine to worry about no cams no valves
better for freestyle or fun with mates
the rush you get on a 2 stroke feels alot more incredible than when riding a four in my oppionion

4 strokes heavier more reliable easier to use power slower than a 2 stroke of the same displacement better for tight trails or hill climbs
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THEY ARE BOTH PRETTY MUCH EQUAL FOR RACING the 2 strokes handle the jumps better but the 4s catch up in the straights

the reason 2 strokes race against 4 strokes with double the displacement is because the 2 strokes fire every 2 strokes

the four strokes fire every 4 strokes so a 2 stroke fires twice every time a 4 fires once so a 2 does twice the workk so to make up for this they doubled the displacement

it is not fair to compare a 250 2 stroke and a 450f as the gearing and lots of other components come into it the only way to truely compare would 2 have a 2 stroke 250 geared normally and then have a 450f geared exactly the same this includes in the gear box and in sprocket sizes then have 2 riders of equal ability race

both bikes are good but it is wat you enjoy riding and wat u can ride nothing else matters its your oppinion

i have had both 2 and 4 strokes and i prefer the peaky power of a 2 stroke

sudds_mcduff

17 years 11 months ago

NOOOOO! the 2 stroke fires ev

NOOOOO! the 2 stroke fires every single time the piston goes up and down, so every cycle, its called 2 stroke because there are 2 parts to the 2 stroke action but 4 strokes fire every other cycle (compression then exhaust then compression....) 2 strokes do it all in one thats why they make double the power to a simileer displacement 4 stroke. AND I do prefer 2 strokes

mxdave

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to NOOOOO! the 2 stroke fires ev by sudds_mcduff

This topic is getting old jus

This topic is getting old just drop it

Sudds is right.

gottalovahonda

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to NOOOOO! the 2 stroke fires ev by sudds_mcduff

haha i knew i'd screw up some

haha i knew i'd screw up somewhere but the message is the same 2 strokes fire twice as often as 4 strokes

fuck the whales save the 2 strokes!!!!!!!

crf kid15

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to NOOOOO! the 2 stroke fires ev by sudds_mcduff

correct

u r correct but just for the record 4 strokes are o so much better

Scars mean nothing without a sweet story.

'04 CRF 250r

2s eat 4s

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to haha i knew i'd screw up some by gottalovahonda

yeah

why are 2 strokes being replaced just because 4 strokes are better for the enviornment since when are we so worried about the enviornment.

2s kick all ass
my bikes
02 cr500
01 kx250
05 ktm 950 super enduro r
75 xr75

2s eat 4s

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to correct by crf kid15

not realy

4s are alot slower and less powerful than 2 strokes, but they do do well in the whoops.

crf250rider

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to not realy by 2s eat 4s

i think four strokes are more

i think four strokes are more powerful than the 2, but the speed is all up to you.

mxdave

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to i think four strokes are more by crf250rider

Yeah 4 strokes have more torq

Yeah 4 strokes have more torque.

gottalovahonda

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to yeah by 2s eat 4s

EXACTLY MY POINT fuck the wh

EXACTLY MY POINT fuck the whales save the 2 strokes!!!!!!!

gottalovahonda

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to correct by crf kid15

the whole point of this threa

the whole point of this thread was to prove that there wasnt a better one its wat is more suitable for the rider

fuck the whales save the 2 strokes!!!!!!!

tigmaster

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to the whole point of this threa by gottalovahonda

well seeing as dyno charts sh

well seeing as dyno charts show that 4 strokes have almost peak horsepower throughout their entire rpm range shows that the the rush u feel on yur 2 stroe is felt always on a 4 stroke. u do realize that 4 strokes rev higher than 2's even though they have cams to worry about. ya thats embarrassing that my 4 with all its rotational mass is revving higher than your 2 with only a piston to worry about. ya 4 strokes have more parts to worry about but u got to make the sacrifice for more power. also as far as weight WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING 4'S ARE SOOOO MUCH HEAVIER?????? my rmz250 is titled at 203lbs and yamaha claims 196lbs for the yz125 with aluminum frame(my bike is steel). hmmmm 7 fucking pounds, ya thats like comparing an empty gas tank to a full one. so stop saying f 4's are soo much heavier. its crap and u all know it!!! and of course the all time argument IF 2 STROKES ARE SO MUCH BETTER, WHY ARE THE PROS RIDING 4 STROKES?????????? BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER!!!!!! the pros are gonna ride the best and thats why they choose 4 strokes. would people stop arguing this topic and face the facts that 2 strokes are being fazed out and 4 stroke are in control. ya 2's used to be good but times change. try and argue with wat i said, just try and i will tear apart watever made up evidence u have because there is no evidence that a 2 stroke has more power than a 4 stroke. just remember rider pref will always be there though.

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gottalovahonda

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to well seeing as dyno charts sh by tigmaster

rider pref is da most importa

rider pref is da most important thing and there is NO WAY TO PROVE 4 IS BETTER THAN 2 OR 2 IS BETTA DAN 4 BECUASE IT IS GEARED COL=MPLETELY DIIFFERENT I F U GEARED A 250F THE EXACT SAME IN THE GEARBOX AND SPROCKETS AS THE 2 STROKE 125 WITH RIDERS OF THE EXACT SAME SKILL LVL RACING THIS IS ONLY WAY TO ACCURATELY CHECK

THIS THREAD ISNT MEANT TO SAY 2S ARE BETTER OR 4S ARE BETTER

RIDER PREFERENCE IS MOST IMPORTANT THING!!!!

fuck the whales save the 2 strokes!!!!!!!

mxdave

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to rider pref is da most importa by gottalovahonda

Yeah 250fs are light i will a

Yeah 250fs are light i will agree. but 450fs are not light try a full day in the saddle in a enduro and then you get stuck in a bog ide hate to be pulling out a 450.

Gottaloveahonda
Really gearing a 4t and a 2t the same is not going to make the 2 bikes equal.

gottalovahonda

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to Yeah 250fs are light i will a by mxdave

gud point but do u agree tat

gud point but do u agree tat there is no acctual way to prove a 4t is betta than a 2t or visa versa

mxdave

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to gud point but do u agree tat by gottalovahonda

Yeah i have come to hate the

Yeah i have come to hate the 2t V 4t topic it gets so old, Yes some ppl are faster on 2ts and some ppl are faster on 4ts. Its really up to the rider i myself am a 2 stroke fan ide get bored of a 4 stroke pretty easy.

gottalovahonda

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to Yeah i have come to hate the by mxdave

exactly its the rider not the

exactly its the rider not the bike

fuck the whales save the 2 strokes!!!!!!!

sudds_mcduff

17 years 11 months ago

In reply to exactly its the rider not the by gottalovahonda

2s have fuck all power down b

2s have fuck all power down bottom but when that powerband hits thats the rush you get with a 2. 4s have way more torque and power is spread comparing the 250 2s with 450 4s and 125 2s with 250 4s cus if you compare them with equal displacement you are a retard cus it dont work like that. I couldnt give a flying fuck who likes 2s or 4s all im gonna say is that i love my kx125 and i wouldnt refuse a nice crf250 if given one.

fuck the whales bitches get a 2 stroke.

cr 125r

17 years 11 months ago

o o ooo DAMN i though i put a

o o ooo DAMN i though i put a comment in this one.... well now i have

yz_125

17 years 10 months ago

In reply to o o ooo DAMN i though i put a by cr 125r

2s and 4s

four strokes and 2 strokes are equal bikes it depends on the person whus ridin them u could have a 17 year old ridin a 250 2 stroke that has ridin for like a couple days and get like someone thats 17 goin to pro thats usin a 125 2 stroke and the 125 will own the 250 same with a four stroke it depnds on the rider...................so fuck all you guys that think ur bike is everything just take the fact that some 2 strokes are better than 4s and some four strokes arte better than some 2s.

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